「宇昌案」特偵簽結 查無不法 - 生技
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※ 編輯: echo 來自: 203.64.48.9 (08/15 19:27)
→ blence:說翁是學者缺乏產業背景,沒聽過太濃的產業氣息是他的缺點嗎 08/15 20:19
→ blence:說到小豬的例子,北醫的學生讚揚自己學校的產碩班,用低薪再 08/15 20:20
→ blence:簽約綁住年輕的肝來使喚而不視人才的過剩,視說自己的情況吧 08/15 20:23
1. 請問翁搞成功過哪個藥廠? 小的也可以!
2. 我沒有讚揚產碩,但是人才培育沒有起點就不會有成果。這個產碩的用意就在
彌補產、學間的落差。
噓 kaikai1112:那裡來的兩隻小豬???? 宇昌南華的標的 從來就是同一個 08/15 20:22
→ kaikai1112:連這麼基本的背景知識都沒有 還好意思大放闕詞.... 08/15 20:23
藥都沒過FDA, 那請問臨床一期二期的藥品從哪來? 實驗室? 藥品認證學校實驗室弄
不來;再者申請上市其中一項是化學品審查,要做現地實審還要試產的,廠房這個
階段就要確定,通常也是在二期到三期間要確定。懂嗎? 有看過相關法規嗎?
那個蓋廠,為的是上述臨床一、二期使用藥品的生產;藉這個機會把該建立的生產線、
法規標準、人員訓練建立起來;真的成功怎麼說功勞都比宇昌大。
就是比宇昌少 1M! 1M 我還可以再去買一個二期~
純研發廠?...在台灣?....Good luck
台灣耕耘? 人家的佈局會因為鬼島三個月的選舉風暴就撤案? 會不會把宇昌抬得
太高了點?
等等,K大,行政程序呢??? 明顯違法喔!!
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→ blence:說翁是學者缺乏產業背景,沒聽過太濃的產業氣息是他的缺點嗎 08/15 20:19
→ blence:說到小豬的例子,北醫的學生讚揚自己學校的產碩班,用低薪再 08/15 20:20
→ blence:簽約綁住年輕的肝來使喚而不視人才的過剩,視說自己的情況吧 08/15 20:23
1. 請問翁搞成功過哪個藥廠? 小的也可以!
2. 我沒有讚揚產碩,但是人才培育沒有起點就不會有成果。這個產碩的用意就在
彌補產、學間的落差。
噓 kaikai1112:那裡來的兩隻小豬???? 宇昌南華的標的 從來就是同一個 08/15 20:22
→ kaikai1112:連這麼基本的背景知識都沒有 還好意思大放闕詞.... 08/15 20:23
噓 kaikai1112:宇昌的廠在哪裡??? 藥都還沒過FDA 在想蓋廠.... 08/15 20:26
→ kaikai1112:你不是吸金鬼 就是詐騙集團.... 08/15 20:27
看到這個讓我不打臉不行~ 藥都沒過FDA, 那請問臨床一期二期的藥品從哪來? 實驗室? 藥品認證學校實驗室弄
不來;再者申請上市其中一項是化學品審查,要做現地實審還要試產的,廠房這個
階段就要確定,通常也是在二期到三期間要確定。懂嗎? 有看過相關法規嗎?
→ kaikai1112:南華案當年提出 藥更還是只在 phase II..... 08/15 20:29
→ kaikai1112:看看現在.... 6 年過去了 終於走到 Phase III 中期.... 08/15 20:30
→ kaikai1112:還好當年南華案沒過...不然 17億的 設備人才都在養蚊子 08/15 20:32
→ kaikai1112:還是你要搞本夢比那一套 蓋了廠自然有人來???? 08/15 20:33
→ kaikai1112:看看何大一的南華報告吧....他一直對這支藥評價很好... 08/15 20:37
→ kaikai1112:不管在南華 或是 宇昌 他的評估都是一樣的... 08/15 20:38
→ kaikai1112:所以南華不過 絕對不是何大一的問題(結果被罵37仔) 08/15 20:41
我不支持南華,但是南華跟宇昌比,南華至少有廠房在台灣。 那個蓋廠,為的是上述臨床一、二期使用藥品的生產;藉這個機會把該建立的生產線、
法規標準、人員訓練建立起來;真的成功怎麼說功勞都比宇昌大。
→ kaikai1112:南華會不過 根本的問題是在時機點.... 08/15 20:42
→ kaikai1112:你對一支在 Phase II 的藥 說要投 17億下去生產..... 08/15 20:44
→ kaikai1112:就像是手上只有一批蛋 就急著蓋養雞場一樣可笑.... 08/15 20:45
噓 kaikai1112:蛋孵不孵的出來 小雞養不養的大 都尚在未定之天 08/15 20:48
→ kaikai1112:就在那裡作雞肉價錢大好 的春秋大夢.... 08/15 20:49
→ kaikai1112:你不是吸金鬼 就是詐騙集團.... 08/15 20:49
→ kaikai1112:說的更清楚一點 南華案如果是現在提出來.... 08/15 20:50
→ kaikai1112:通過的機會肯定大上許多 Phase III 中期 時機阿懂嗎... 08/15 20:50
時機點? 同樣一個時機點 (二期結束) 我至少看過三個 up-front 在 200M USD 的; 就是比宇昌少 1M! 1M 我還可以再去買一個二期~
→ kaikai1112:說"技術鑑價失敗" 就更可笑了...3000萬鎂是很多沒錯 08/15 20:54
→ kaikai1112:但是你要看他買到啥阿. Phase II 藥 100% 所有權阿.... 08/15 20:56
→ kaikai1112:要不要看看前一陣子 成大技轉四億台幣的標的是啥..... 08/15 20:57
→ kaikai1112:還沒進入臨床就值四億 (1300萬鎂) 08/15 20:59
是阿~ 一個是抗愛滋,一個是抗過敏。憑閣下的理解我很難跟你解釋。 → kaikai1112:Phase II 藥 3000萬鎂是很貴??????? 08/15 20:59
→ kaikai1112:→ puec2:PhaseIII中期? <--上一篇何大一投書就有了 08/15 21:01
→ kaikai1112:X的 東西都貼給你們了 自己不看 就只會活自在自己井底 08/15 21:02
噓 kaikai1112:X的 南華可是要丟 17億 作6 7 年以後"可能"有的生意 08/15 21:06
噓 kaikai1112:目前中裕只差一個小規模的第三期臨床試驗就可申請上市 08/15 21:09
→ kaikai1112:是沒看到嗎.... 08/15 21:09
→ kaikai1112:要進行PhaseIII 是另一支預防性的衍生藥 08/15 21:10
小規模三期....多小? 20人? 噓 kaikai1112:明明 南華 宇昌的選擇 明眼人都知道要選誰.... 08/15 21:26
→ kaikai1112:去卻自己去腦補一堆 政治陰謀..然後再說別人扯政治 08/15 21:27
推 kaikai1112:OK 我可能誤會那段文字的意思 但是對上面的論述無影響 08/15 21:30
沒錯~ 明眼人都知道要選誰。偏偏選錯了的也沒選上。 推 kaikai1112:有啥影響??.....花的時間更久只是對南華案更不利 08/15 21:50
→ kaikai1112:南華最大的問題 就在他的標的只有這一支藥阿.... 08/15 21:51
→ kaikai1112:所以不管宇昌遇到什麼問題 南華都不能避免... 08/15 21:52
推 kaikai1112:還是你要搞本夢比那一套 蓋了廠自然有人來???? 08/15 21:55
南華案的時機一直都在,投資方式/金額/方向不同。建廠對本土產業有一定幫助。 純研發廠?...在台灣?....Good luck
→ eyespot:抹黑宇昌的影響不是宇昌本身 而是之後生技產業最需要的 08/15 21:56
→ eyespot:資金跟高階人才不再進入台灣 一堆689在說宇昌本身對台灣 08/15 21:56
→ eyespot:生技產業貢獻不大 根本是搞錯重點 08/15 21:57
寒蟬效應才是謬論中的謬論。我前一篇不是才寫到,這五年來有多少產業前輩回來 台灣耕耘? 人家的佈局會因為鬼島三個月的選舉風暴就撤案? 會不會把宇昌抬得
太高了點?
等等,K大,行政程序呢??? 明顯違法喔!!
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